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Lady Spank
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Posted - 2011.06.12 06:45:00 -
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Keres is a p cool tackler. Not 'tough' per se but it could be of interets.
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Lady Spank
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Posted - 2011.06.12 07:32:00 -
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 Originally by: VKhaun Vex
You obviously can't tackle something faster then you
Wrong
Originally by: VKhaun Vex
So does interdiction shut off MWD's?
No
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Lady Spank
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Posted - 2011.06.12 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: VKhaun Vex
Oh look, another EVE elitist.
I like Spank, I've seen lots of her posts tonight on this slow night at work and she seems to help when a person can be helped. But overall I also see a ton of dumb **** like comments about WoW and blatantly flaming new players. I usually don't buy into trying to attribute behaviors to a whole community, good or bad, but I have to say EVE is the least friendly game community I've ever seen.
Sure DoTA games and FPS's have lots of people who turn into ******s when they're not winning, but people on EVE don't seem like angry action gamers. They seem intentionally hostile. I'm sure someone will say I'm mad now, but it was just an observation I felt like mentioning since I had a clear example in the thread.
Originally by: Lady Spank
No.
Go get some glasses or lower your screen resolution. Multiple overviews what is this.
lol...
Pardon me, I was in bed.
How is me using two words to inform you of something being intentionally hostile?
I was succinct, if you take that as being rude then you probably need a thicker skin to read these forums. IF something is simply burning away from you at its max speed and outpacing you then you aren't going to catch him simply by chasing. You will have to try and cat and mouse them.
If they are running about like a loon or orbiting you at 24km or something then there are several manouvers available to bring them into scram range. You can look these up but here's a start.
I said wrong re. dictor bubbles/spheres/points simply because you were wrong. Why use 10 words when one will do.
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Lady Spank
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Posted - 2011.06.13 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Zondrail
Originally by: Niveon
Originally by: Zondrail
The Keres only get's bonus to Disruptor I believe, so doesn't do much for Scramming, and that's what I'm looking for.
This is where you're wrong, and why you can tackle things that are faster than you. Same with the Hyena.
If you are right, then that is very good information to have. Is this just a really bad mess-up on their bonus wording? Seems like they very explicitly say disruptor... you'd think that was on purpose.
We are talking about CCP here.
I can confirm that the bonus applies to both disruptors and scrams.
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Lady Spank
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Posted - 2011.06.13 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Zondrail
But still, how safe does this really make you? These 25-50% bonuses seem worthless. You get out to 13.5km and you are still very reachable with an OH Scram or Web (and an OH on your prop mod maybe for a quick gap closer). It seems to me like in order to make a scram range bonus really worth it, it needs to get into the 100% bonus range (18km).
Most scram fit ships that you are concerned about can be damped so as not to reach you.
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Lady Spank
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Posted - 2011.06.13 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Zondrail
Do you think you can get away without dual-prop with the Keres?
You can Scram and damp a small target so it can't even target back to attempt a Scram/Web counter or even try and shoot at you. So safe in that situation.
But if you tackle a larger target with a strong targeting range, and can't damp it enough, you risk getting counter Scram/Webbed with no AB and I'm going to assume at that point you would go kablooey.
I guess the important question is how many damps does it take to protect against most other small ships? If it's only 2 then you can still do:
MWD
AB
Scram
RSD x2
Thoughts?
This is no different to getting you interceptor scram/webbed etc except you have a range advantage. Any ship that can scram/web/neut you is going to give you the same trouble in any other tackling frig.
The Keres is a bloody good tackler trust me. I wouldn't dream about dual prop fitting it with the agility it has so I can't comment there. Speaking of which it certainly needs a polycarbon rig btw. All the EAF's are a bit on the sludgy side.
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